Discussion:
Windows 7 folder delete
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Robert Schuldenfrei
2009-10-31 14:26:01 UTC
Permalink
Hi NG,

I have a standard account that has administrator's privileges. I have
started Windows Explorer by "Run As Administrator." I try to delete "Windows
OneCare Backup" folder that is no longer in use. OneCare is no longer
supported and cannot be loaded into Windows 7. The system tells me: "You'll
need to provide administrator permission to delete this folder." How can I
get this permission?

TIA,

Bob (***@s-i-inc.com)
Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
2009-10-31 15:11:02 UTC
Permalink
Hello Robert,

Logon as administrator or take ownership of the folder and give you Full
control. Even with an administrator group account you are still limited within
Windows 7 as in Windows Server 2008 or Vista.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi NG,
I have a standard account that has administrator's privileges. I have
started Windows Explorer by "Run As Administrator." I try to delete
"Windows OneCare Backup" folder that is no longer in use. OneCare is
no longer supported and cannot be loaded into Windows 7. The system
tells me: "You'll need to provide administrator permission to delete
this folder." How can I get this permission?
TIA,
Robert Schuldenfrei
2009-10-31 16:02:01 UTC
Permalink
Hi Meinolf,

Thank you for your quick response. I only have two accounts on this
machine. They are Bob and Robert Schuldenfrei. They both have administrator
privileges. As you point out, "Even with an administrator group account you
are still limited within Windows 7 as in Windows Server 2008 or Vista."

How do I log on as administrator?

Thank you,
Post by Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello Robert,
Logon as administrator or take ownership of the folder and give you Full
control. Even with an administrator group account you are still limited within
Windows 7 as in Windows Server 2008 or Vista.
Best regards
Meinolf Weber
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Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi NG,
I have a standard account that has administrator's privileges. I have
started Windows Explorer by "Run As Administrator." I try to delete
"Windows OneCare Backup" folder that is no longer in use. OneCare is
no longer supported and cannot be loaded into Windows 7. The system
tells me: "You'll need to provide administrator permission to delete
this folder." How can I get this permission?
TIA,
.
Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
2009-10-31 16:18:17 UTC
Permalink
Hello Robert,

By default the administartor is disabled in Windows 7, so you have to open
computer management and enable it. Type "compmgmt.msc" in the run line or
'search programs and files' without the quotes and go to 'Local users and
groups'. Do not forget to set a long strong password for the administrator
account. If you have used the administrator account i suggest to disable
it again.

But i would choosing the way with taking ownership, open the folder properties,
security, advanced and the ownship tab. Choose Edit and on the nesxt popup
you can make your account the owner and give you full control.

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
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Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Meinolf,
Thank you for your quick response. I only have two accounts on this
machine. They are Bob and Robert Schuldenfrei. They both have
administrator privileges. As you point out, "Even with an
administrator group account you are still limited within Windows 7 as
in Windows Server 2008 or Vista."
How do I log on as administrator?
Thank you,
Post by Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello Robert,
Logon as administrator or take ownership of the folder and give you
Full control. Even with an administrator group account you are still
limited within Windows 7 as in Windows Server 2008 or Vista.
Best regards
Meinolf Weber
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Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi NG,
I have a standard account that has administrator's privileges. I
have started Windows Explorer by "Run As Administrator." I try to
delete "Windows OneCare Backup" folder that is no longer in use.
OneCare is no longer supported and cannot be loaded into Windows 7.
The system tells me: "You'll need to provide administrator
permission to delete this folder." How can I get this permission?
TIA,
.
Robert Schuldenfrei
2009-11-02 18:46:01 UTC
Permalink
Hi Meinolf,

Well, I made some progress, but I still cannot delete the storage on the I:
disk. That is the eHDD that contains the OneCare folder of 139 useless GB.
I was able to activate the Administrator user and log in as Administrator.
However, I still got the message: "You'll need to provide administrator
permission to delete this folder." Any ideas why this is the case?

I suppose that I could always reformat the eHDD, but I would rather solve
the problem and learn from the experience.

Cheers,

Bob
Post by Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello Robert,
By default the administartor is disabled in Windows 7, so you have to open
computer management and enable it. Type "compmgmt.msc" in the run line or
'search programs and files' without the quotes and go to 'Local users and
groups'. Do not forget to set a long strong password for the administrator
account. If you have used the administrator account i suggest to disable
it again.
But i would choosing the way with taking ownership, open the folder properties,
security, advanced and the ownship tab. Choose Edit and on the nesxt popup
you can make your account the owner and give you full control.
Best regards
Meinolf Weber
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Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Meinolf,
Thank you for your quick response. I only have two accounts on this
machine. They are Bob and Robert Schuldenfrei. They both have
administrator privileges. As you point out, "Even with an
administrator group account you are still limited within Windows 7 as
in Windows Server 2008 or Vista."
How do I log on as administrator?
Thank you,
Post by Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello Robert,
Logon as administrator or take ownership of the folder and give you
Full control. Even with an administrator group account you are still
limited within Windows 7 as in Windows Server 2008 or Vista.
Best regards
Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
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Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi NG,
I have a standard account that has administrator's privileges. I
have started Windows Explorer by "Run As Administrator." I try to
delete "Windows OneCare Backup" folder that is no longer in use.
OneCare is no longer supported and cannot be loaded into Windows 7.
The system tells me: "You'll need to provide administrator
permission to delete this folder." How can I get this permission?
TIA,
.
.
Pegasus [MVP]
2009-11-02 19:38:54 UTC
Permalink
Try deleting the folder while in the Command Console of the Recovery Mode.
To get there, press F8 during the early boot phase, before Windows starts.
Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Meinolf,
disk. That is the eHDD that contains the OneCare folder of 139 useless GB.
I was able to activate the Administrator user and log in as Administrator.
However, I still got the message: "You'll need to provide administrator
permission to delete this folder." Any ideas why this is the case?
I suppose that I could always reformat the eHDD, but I would rather solve
the problem and learn from the experience.
Cheers,
Bob
Post by Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello Robert,
By default the administartor is disabled in Windows 7, so you have to open
computer management and enable it. Type "compmgmt.msc" in the run line or
'search programs and files' without the quotes and go to 'Local users and
groups'. Do not forget to set a long strong password for the
administrator
account. If you have used the administrator account i suggest to disable
it again.
But i would choosing the way with taking ownership, open the folder properties,
security, advanced and the ownship tab. Choose Edit and on the nesxt popup
you can make your account the owner and give you full control.
Best regards
Meinolf Weber
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Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Meinolf,
Thank you for your quick response. I only have two accounts on this
machine. They are Bob and Robert Schuldenfrei. They both have
administrator privileges. As you point out, "Even with an
administrator group account you are still limited within Windows 7 as
in Windows Server 2008 or Vista."
How do I log on as administrator?
Thank you,
Post by Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello Robert,
Logon as administrator or take ownership of the folder and give you
Full control. Even with an administrator group account you are still
limited within Windows 7 as in Windows Server 2008 or Vista.
Best regards
Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
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Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi NG,
I have a standard account that has administrator's privileges. I
have started Windows Explorer by "Run As Administrator." I try to
delete "Windows OneCare Backup" folder that is no longer in use.
OneCare is no longer supported and cannot be loaded into Windows 7.
The system tells me: "You'll need to provide administrator
permission to delete this folder." How can I get this permission?
TIA,
.
.
Robert Schuldenfrei
2009-11-05 20:21:02 UTC
Permalink
Hi Pegasus,

Thank you for your help. I have been quite busy and have just now found the
time to try your suggestion of entering Windows RE. It is getting strange!
I find on this machine, an HP Pavilion a1640n, that I cannot get into RE by
pressing F8. Nothing happens and I just boot up to Windows 7. The only
choices I have are:

F1
F10
<ESC>

I know that investigating the BIOS is a bit afield from this NG's mission,
but do you have any idea what is going on here?

Thank you,

Bob
Post by Pegasus [MVP]
Try deleting the folder while in the Command Console of the Recovery Mode.
To get there, press F8 during the early boot phase, before Windows starts.
Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Meinolf,
disk. That is the eHDD that contains the OneCare folder of 139 useless GB.
I was able to activate the Administrator user and log in as Administrator.
However, I still got the message: "You'll need to provide administrator
permission to delete this folder." Any ideas why this is the case?
I suppose that I could always reformat the eHDD, but I would rather solve
the problem and learn from the experience.
Cheers,
Bob
Post by Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello Robert,
By default the administartor is disabled in Windows 7, so you have to open
computer management and enable it. Type "compmgmt.msc" in the run line or
'search programs and files' without the quotes and go to 'Local users and
groups'. Do not forget to set a long strong password for the administrator
account. If you have used the administrator account i suggest to disable
it again.
But i would choosing the way with taking ownership, open the folder properties,
security, advanced and the ownship tab. Choose Edit and on the nesxt popup
you can make your account the owner and give you full control.
Best regards
Meinolf Weber
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Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Meinolf,
Thank you for your quick response. I only have two accounts on this
machine. They are Bob and Robert Schuldenfrei. They both have
administrator privileges. As you point out, "Even with an
administrator group account you are still limited within Windows 7 as
in Windows Server 2008 or Vista."
How do I log on as administrator?
Thank you,
Post by Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello Robert,
Logon as administrator or take ownership of the folder and give you
Full control. Even with an administrator group account you are still
limited within Windows 7 as in Windows Server 2008 or Vista.
Best regards
Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
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Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi NG,
I have a standard account that has administrator's privileges. I
have started Windows Explorer by "Run As Administrator." I try to
delete "Windows OneCare Backup" folder that is no longer in use.
OneCare is no longer supported and cannot be loaded into Windows 7.
The system tells me: "You'll need to provide administrator
permission to delete this folder." How can I get this permission?
TIA,
.
.
.
Pegasus [MVP]
2009-11-05 20:33:56 UTC
Permalink
F8 is not some BIOS-functionality key; it's a key that gets picked up right
at the beginning of the Windows start-up. It's been around since WinNT
(although I think it was a different key there) and under Win7 it gives you
12 different start options. I can think of a few reasons why F8 does not
work on your machine:
- You're not tapping the key rapidly and repeatedly.
- You're tapping it too late.
- You use a non-Windows boot loader that interferes with F8.
- Your keyboard is flawed.

There are several other options you could use to delete the problem folder,
e.g:
- Boot the machine with a Win7 Recovery CD. The Windows Help facility tells
you how to make one. It's a good idea to have this CD while the going is
good . . .
- Boot the machine with a third-party boot CD, e.g. a Bart PE boot CD or a
UBCD4 CD (quicker to make than a Bart PE CD but slower to boot up with).
(http://www.UBCD4win.com)
Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Pegasus,
Thank you for your help. I have been quite busy and have just now found the
time to try your suggestion of entering Windows RE. It is getting strange!
I find on this machine, an HP Pavilion a1640n, that I cannot get into RE by
pressing F8. Nothing happens and I just boot up to Windows 7. The only
F1
F10
<ESC>
I know that investigating the BIOS is a bit afield from this NG's mission,
but do you have any idea what is going on here?
Thank you,
Bob
Post by Pegasus [MVP]
Try deleting the folder while in the Command Console of the Recovery Mode.
To get there, press F8 during the early boot phase, before Windows starts.
Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Meinolf,
Well, I made some progress, but I still cannot delete the storage on
the
disk. That is the eHDD that contains the OneCare folder of 139 useless GB.
I was able to activate the Administrator user and log in as
Administrator.
However, I still got the message: "You'll need to provide administrator
permission to delete this folder." Any ideas why this is the case?
I suppose that I could always reformat the eHDD, but I would rather solve
the problem and learn from the experience.
Cheers,
Bob
Post by Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello Robert,
By default the administartor is disabled in Windows 7, so you have to open
computer management and enable it. Type "compmgmt.msc" in the run line or
'search programs and files' without the quotes and go to 'Local users and
groups'. Do not forget to set a long strong password for the administrator
account. If you have used the administrator account i suggest to disable
it again.
But i would choosing the way with taking ownership, open the folder properties,
security, advanced and the ownship tab. Choose Edit and on the nesxt popup
you can make your account the owner and give you full control.
Best regards
Meinolf Weber
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Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Meinolf,
Thank you for your quick response. I only have two accounts on this
machine. They are Bob and Robert Schuldenfrei. They both have
administrator privileges. As you point out, "Even with an
administrator group account you are still limited within Windows 7 as
in Windows Server 2008 or Vista."
How do I log on as administrator?
Thank you,
Post by Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello Robert,
Logon as administrator or take ownership of the folder and give you
Full control. Even with an administrator group account you are still
limited within Windows 7 as in Windows Server 2008 or Vista.
Best regards
Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
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Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi NG,
I have a standard account that has administrator's privileges. I
have started Windows Explorer by "Run As Administrator." I try to
delete "Windows OneCare Backup" folder that is no longer in use.
OneCare is no longer supported and cannot be loaded into Windows 7.
The system tells me: "You'll need to provide administrator
permission to delete this folder." How can I get this permission?
TIA,
.
.
.
Robert Schuldenfrei
2009-11-19 16:12:08 UTC
Permalink
Hi Pegasus,

I was on vacation and just now returning to my folder delete problem. Since
this is not a high priority repair, it may be a few days until I have a
chance to return to this issue. I was able to get into the BIOS and then
into the "Windows Recovery Environment." Here is how I did it:

1/ F10 during boot. (This gets you to "Edit Boot Options.")

2/ <ESC> (This is the cancel function)

3/ F8 (This is the "Advanced Options")

4/ Select Safe Mode.

5/ Excute Windows Explorer using Run As Administrator option.

Sadly, I am still forbidden from deleting the " Windows OneCare Backup"
folder. Do you have any contacts with the team that was/is supporting
OneCare? I do not really want to reformat the eHDD in order to remove this
folder. My next step is to create a Win7 Recovery CD as you suggest.

Thank you for your help,

Bob
Post by Pegasus [MVP]
F8 is not some BIOS-functionality key; it's a key that gets picked up right
at the beginning of the Windows start-up. It's been around since WinNT
(although I think it was a different key there) and under Win7 it gives you
12 different start options. I can think of a few reasons why F8 does not
- You're not tapping the key rapidly and repeatedly.
- You're tapping it too late.
- You use a non-Windows boot loader that interferes with F8.
- Your keyboard is flawed.
There are several other options you could use to delete the problem folder,
- Boot the machine with a Win7 Recovery CD. The Windows Help facility tells
you how to make one. It's a good idea to have this CD while the going is
good . . .
- Boot the machine with a third-party boot CD, e.g. a Bart PE boot CD or a
UBCD4 CD (quicker to make than a Bart PE CD but slower to boot up with).
(http://www.UBCD4win.com)
Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Pegasus,
Thank you for your help. I have been quite busy and have just now found the
time to try your suggestion of entering Windows RE. It is getting strange!
I find on this machine, an HP Pavilion a1640n, that I cannot get into RE by
pressing F8. Nothing happens and I just boot up to Windows 7. The only
F1
F10
<ESC>
I know that investigating the BIOS is a bit afield from this NG's mission,
but do you have any idea what is going on here?
Thank you,
Bob
Post by Pegasus [MVP]
Try deleting the folder while in the Command Console of the Recovery Mode.
To get there, press F8 during the early boot phase, before Windows starts.
Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Meinolf,
Well, I made some progress, but I still cannot delete the storage on
the
disk. That is the eHDD that contains the OneCare folder of 139 useless GB.
I was able to activate the Administrator user and log in as Administrator.
However, I still got the message: "You'll need to provide administrator
permission to delete this folder." Any ideas why this is the case?
I suppose that I could always reformat the eHDD, but I would rather solve
the problem and learn from the experience.
Cheers,
Bob
Post by Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello Robert,
By default the administartor is disabled in Windows 7, so you have to open
computer management and enable it. Type "compmgmt.msc" in the run line or
'search programs and files' without the quotes and go to 'Local users and
groups'. Do not forget to set a long strong password for the administrator
account. If you have used the administrator account i suggest to disable
it again.
But i would choosing the way with taking ownership, open the folder properties,
security, advanced and the ownship tab. Choose Edit and on the nesxt popup
you can make your account the owner and give you full control.
Best regards
Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
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Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Meinolf,
Thank you for your quick response. I only have two accounts on this
machine. They are Bob and Robert Schuldenfrei. They both have
administrator privileges. As you point out, "Even with an
administrator group account you are still limited within Windows 7 as
in Windows Server 2008 or Vista."
How do I log on as administrator?
Thank you,
Post by Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello Robert,
Logon as administrator or take ownership of the folder and give you
Full control. Even with an administrator group account you are still
limited within Windows 7 as in Windows Server 2008 or Vista.
Best regards
Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers
no rights.
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Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi NG,
I have a standard account that has administrator's privileges. I
have started Windows Explorer by "Run As Administrator." I try to
delete "Windows OneCare Backup" folder that is no longer in use.
OneCare is no longer supported and cannot be loaded into Windows 7.
The system tells me: "You'll need to provide administrator
permission to delete this folder." How can I get this permission?
TIA,
.
.
.
.
Pegasus [MVP]
2009-11-19 18:53:59 UTC
Permalink
You appear to be under a misconception when you ask "Do you have any
contacts with the team that was/is supporting OneCare?". This is a public
forum whose respondents are volunteers from the general community. It is
rare that you see a response from a person related in some way to Microsoft.

Reformatting your PC in order to remove the unwanted folder would be
equivalent to buying a new car when you run out of gas. I gave you several
options that are far less intrusive.
Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Pegasus,
I was on vacation and just now returning to my folder delete problem.
Since
this is not a high priority repair, it may be a few days until I have a
chance to return to this issue. I was able to get into the BIOS and then
1/ F10 during boot. (This gets you to "Edit Boot Options.")
2/ <ESC> (This is the cancel function)
3/ F8 (This is the "Advanced Options")
4/ Select Safe Mode.
5/ Excute Windows Explorer using Run As Administrator option.
Sadly, I am still forbidden from deleting the " Windows OneCare Backup"
folder. Do you have any contacts with the team that was/is supporting
OneCare? I do not really want to reformat the eHDD in order to remove this
folder. My next step is to create a Win7 Recovery CD as you suggest.
Thank you for your help,
Bob
Post by Pegasus [MVP]
F8 is not some BIOS-functionality key; it's a key that gets picked up right
at the beginning of the Windows start-up. It's been around since WinNT
(although I think it was a different key there) and under Win7 it gives you
12 different start options. I can think of a few reasons why F8 does not
- You're not tapping the key rapidly and repeatedly.
- You're tapping it too late.
- You use a non-Windows boot loader that interferes with F8.
- Your keyboard is flawed.
There are several other options you could use to delete the problem folder,
- Boot the machine with a Win7 Recovery CD. The Windows Help facility tells
you how to make one. It's a good idea to have this CD while the going is
good . . .
- Boot the machine with a third-party boot CD, e.g. a Bart PE boot CD or a
UBCD4 CD (quicker to make than a Bart PE CD but slower to boot up with).
(http://www.UBCD4win.com)
Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Pegasus,
Thank you for your help. I have been quite busy and have just now
found
the
time to try your suggestion of entering Windows RE. It is getting strange!
I find on this machine, an HP Pavilion a1640n, that I cannot get into
RE
by
pressing F8. Nothing happens and I just boot up to Windows 7. The only
F1
F10
<ESC>
I know that investigating the BIOS is a bit afield from this NG's mission,
but do you have any idea what is going on here?
Thank you,
Bob
Post by Pegasus [MVP]
Try deleting the folder while in the Command Console of the Recovery Mode.
To get there, press F8 during the early boot phase, before Windows starts.
Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Meinolf,
Well, I made some progress, but I still cannot delete the storage on
the
disk. That is the eHDD that contains the OneCare folder of 139
useless
GB.
I was able to activate the Administrator user and log in as Administrator.
However, I still got the message: "You'll need to provide administrator
permission to delete this folder." Any ideas why this is the case?
I suppose that I could always reformat the eHDD, but I would rather solve
the problem and learn from the experience.
Cheers,
Bob
Post by Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello Robert,
By default the administartor is disabled in Windows 7, so you have
to
open
computer management and enable it. Type "compmgmt.msc" in the run
line
or
'search programs and files' without the quotes and go to 'Local
users
and
groups'. Do not forget to set a long strong password for the administrator
account. If you have used the administrator account i suggest to disable
it again.
But i would choosing the way with taking ownership, open the folder
properties,
security, advanced and the ownship tab. Choose Edit and on the
nesxt
popup
you can make your account the owner and give you full control.
Best regards
Meinolf Weber
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Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Meinolf,
Thank you for your quick response. I only have two accounts on this
machine. They are Bob and Robert Schuldenfrei. They both have
administrator privileges. As you point out, "Even with an
administrator group account you are still limited within Windows
7
as
in Windows Server 2008 or Vista."
How do I log on as administrator?
Thank you,
Post by Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello Robert,
Logon as administrator or take ownership of the folder and give you
Full control. Even with an administrator group account you are still
limited within Windows 7 as in Windows Server 2008 or Vista.
Best regards
Meinolf Weber
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Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi NG,
I have a standard account that has administrator's privileges.
I
have started Windows Explorer by "Run As Administrator." I try to
delete "Windows OneCare Backup" folder that is no longer in use.
OneCare is no longer supported and cannot be loaded into
Windows
7.
The system tells me: "You'll need to provide administrator
permission to delete this folder." How can I get this permission?
TIA,
.
.
.
.
Robert Schuldenfrei
2009-11-20 19:59:01 UTC
Permalink
Hi Pegasus,

I am under no misconception. I just thought if anyone here knew some one
there I might make some progress. Did not mean to give offense. I agree
that reformatting the eHDD is drastic such that I will only do that if there
is no other way to solve the problem.

I have tried everything you and others have suggested except using the Win7
Recovery Disk. I plan to try that next week. Something that I thought about
that I might also try is to take the eHDD to some other computer. I do not
know where the folder security is lodged. If it is in Win7 taking it to a
Win XP machine might do it. Of course, if it is in the file system, I would
have the same grief on a different machine.

Thank you for your suggestions,

Bob
Post by Pegasus [MVP]
You appear to be under a misconception when you ask "Do you have any
contacts with the team that was/is supporting OneCare?". This is a public
forum whose respondents are volunteers from the general community. It is
rare that you see a response from a person related in some way to Microsoft.
Reformatting your PC in order to remove the unwanted folder would be
equivalent to buying a new car when you run out of gas. I gave you several
options that are far less intrusive.
Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Pegasus,
I was on vacation and just now returning to my folder delete problem.
Since
this is not a high priority repair, it may be a few days until I have a
chance to return to this issue. I was able to get into the BIOS and then
1/ F10 during boot. (This gets you to "Edit Boot Options.")
2/ <ESC> (This is the cancel function)
3/ F8 (This is the "Advanced Options")
4/ Select Safe Mode.
5/ Excute Windows Explorer using Run As Administrator option.
Sadly, I am still forbidden from deleting the " Windows OneCare Backup"
folder. Do you have any contacts with the team that was/is supporting
OneCare? I do not really want to reformat the eHDD in order to remove this
folder. My next step is to create a Win7 Recovery CD as you suggest.
Thank you for your help,
Bob
Post by Pegasus [MVP]
F8 is not some BIOS-functionality key; it's a key that gets picked up right
at the beginning of the Windows start-up. It's been around since WinNT
(although I think it was a different key there) and under Win7 it gives you
12 different start options. I can think of a few reasons why F8 does not
- You're not tapping the key rapidly and repeatedly.
- You're tapping it too late.
- You use a non-Windows boot loader that interferes with F8.
- Your keyboard is flawed.
There are several other options you could use to delete the problem folder,
- Boot the machine with a Win7 Recovery CD. The Windows Help facility tells
you how to make one. It's a good idea to have this CD while the going is
good . . .
- Boot the machine with a third-party boot CD, e.g. a Bart PE boot CD or a
UBCD4 CD (quicker to make than a Bart PE CD but slower to boot up with).
(http://www.UBCD4win.com)
Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Pegasus,
Thank you for your help. I have been quite busy and have just now
found
the
time to try your suggestion of entering Windows RE. It is getting strange!
I find on this machine, an HP Pavilion a1640n, that I cannot get into
RE
by
pressing F8. Nothing happens and I just boot up to Windows 7. The only
F1
F10
<ESC>
I know that investigating the BIOS is a bit afield from this NG's mission,
but do you have any idea what is going on here?
Thank you,
Bob
Post by Pegasus [MVP]
Try deleting the folder while in the Command Console of the Recovery Mode.
To get there, press F8 during the early boot phase, before Windows starts.
Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Meinolf,
Well, I made some progress, but I still cannot delete the storage on
the
disk. That is the eHDD that contains the OneCare folder of 139
useless
GB.
I was able to activate the Administrator user and log in as Administrator.
However, I still got the message: "You'll need to provide administrator
permission to delete this folder." Any ideas why this is the case?
I suppose that I could always reformat the eHDD, but I would rather solve
the problem and learn from the experience.
Cheers,
Bob
Post by Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello Robert,
By default the administartor is disabled in Windows 7, so you have
to
open
computer management and enable it. Type "compmgmt.msc" in the run
line
or
'search programs and files' without the quotes and go to 'Local
users
and
groups'. Do not forget to set a long strong password for the
administrator
account. If you have used the administrator account i suggest to disable
it again.
But i would choosing the way with taking ownership, open the folder
properties,
security, advanced and the ownship tab. Choose Edit and on the
nesxt
popup
you can make your account the owner and give you full control.
Best regards
Meinolf Weber
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and
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Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Meinolf,
Thank you for your quick response. I only have two accounts on this
machine. They are Bob and Robert Schuldenfrei. They both have
administrator privileges. As you point out, "Even with an
administrator group account you are still limited within Windows
7
as
in Windows Server 2008 or Vista."
How do I log on as administrator?
Thank you,
Post by Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello Robert,
Logon as administrator or take ownership of the folder and give you
Full control. Even with an administrator group account you are
still
limited within Windows 7 as in Windows Server 2008 or Vista.
Best regards
Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!!
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Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi NG,
I have a standard account that has administrator's privileges.
I
have started Windows Explorer by "Run As Administrator." I try
to
delete "Windows OneCare Backup" folder that is no longer in use.
OneCare is no longer supported and cannot be loaded into
Windows
7.
The system tells me: "You'll need to provide administrator
permission to delete this folder." How can I get this
permission?
TIA,
.
.
.
.
.
Pegasus [MVP]
2009-11-20 20:24:40 UTC
Permalink
Taking the disk to another machine is indeed a good option, as is booting
the PC with a Bart PE boot CD (or similar) as I suggested earlier.

I'm a littled puzzled as to why you should find it difficult to locate the
unwanted (and unloved!) folder. Since you tried to delete it, and failed,
you must know where it resides!
Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Pegasus,
I am under no misconception. I just thought if anyone here knew some one
there I might make some progress. Did not mean to give offense. I agree
that reformatting the eHDD is drastic such that I will only do that if there
is no other way to solve the problem.
I have tried everything you and others have suggested except using the Win7
Recovery Disk. I plan to try that next week. Something that I thought about
that I might also try is to take the eHDD to some other computer. I do not
know where the folder security is lodged. If it is in Win7 taking it to a
Win XP machine might do it. Of course, if it is in the file system, I would
have the same grief on a different machine.
Thank you for your suggestions,
Bob
Post by Pegasus [MVP]
You appear to be under a misconception when you ask "Do you have any
contacts with the team that was/is supporting OneCare?". This is a public
forum whose respondents are volunteers from the general community. It is
rare that you see a response from a person related in some way to Microsoft.
Reformatting your PC in order to remove the unwanted folder would be
equivalent to buying a new car when you run out of gas. I gave you several
options that are far less intrusive.
Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Pegasus,
I was on vacation and just now returning to my folder delete problem.
Since
this is not a high priority repair, it may be a few days until I have a
chance to return to this issue. I was able to get into the BIOS and then
1/ F10 during boot. (This gets you to "Edit Boot Options.")
2/ <ESC> (This is the cancel function)
3/ F8 (This is the "Advanced Options")
4/ Select Safe Mode.
5/ Excute Windows Explorer using Run As Administrator option.
Sadly, I am still forbidden from deleting the " Windows OneCare Backup"
folder. Do you have any contacts with the team that was/is supporting
OneCare? I do not really want to reformat the eHDD in order to remove this
folder. My next step is to create a Win7 Recovery CD as you suggest.
Thank you for your help,
Bob
Post by Pegasus [MVP]
F8 is not some BIOS-functionality key; it's a key that gets picked up right
at the beginning of the Windows start-up. It's been around since WinNT
(although I think it was a different key there) and under Win7 it
gives
you
12 different start options. I can think of a few reasons why F8 does not
- You're not tapping the key rapidly and repeatedly.
- You're tapping it too late.
- You use a non-Windows boot loader that interferes with F8.
- Your keyboard is flawed.
There are several other options you could use to delete the problem folder,
- Boot the machine with a Win7 Recovery CD. The Windows Help facility tells
you how to make one. It's a good idea to have this CD while the going is
good . . .
- Boot the machine with a third-party boot CD, e.g. a Bart PE boot CD
or
a
UBCD4 CD (quicker to make than a Bart PE CD but slower to boot up with).
(http://www.UBCD4win.com)
Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Pegasus,
Thank you for your help. I have been quite busy and have just now
found
the
time to try your suggestion of entering Windows RE. It is getting strange!
I find on this machine, an HP Pavilion a1640n, that I cannot get into
RE
by
pressing F8. Nothing happens and I just boot up to Windows 7. The only
F1
F10
<ESC>
I know that investigating the BIOS is a bit afield from this NG's mission,
but do you have any idea what is going on here?
Thank you,
Bob
Post by Pegasus [MVP]
Try deleting the folder while in the Command Console of the
Recovery
Mode.
To get there, press F8 during the early boot phase, before Windows starts.
"Robert Schuldenfrei"
Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Meinolf,
Well, I made some progress, but I still cannot delete the storage on
the
disk. That is the eHDD that contains the OneCare folder of 139
useless
GB.
I was able to activate the Administrator user and log in as
Administrator.
However, I still got the message: "You'll need to provide administrator
permission to delete this folder." Any ideas why this is the case?
I suppose that I could always reformat the eHDD, but I would
rather
solve
the problem and learn from the experience.
Cheers,
Bob
Post by Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello Robert,
By default the administartor is disabled in Windows 7, so you have
to
open
computer management and enable it. Type "compmgmt.msc" in the run
line
or
'search programs and files' without the quotes and go to 'Local
users
and
groups'. Do not forget to set a long strong password for the
administrator
account. If you have used the administrator account i suggest to
disable
it again.
But i would choosing the way with taking ownership, open the folder
properties,
security, advanced and the ownship tab. Choose Edit and on the
nesxt
popup
you can make your account the owner and give you full control.
Best regards
Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!!
http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Meinolf,
Thank you for your quick response. I only have two accounts
on
this
machine. They are Bob and Robert Schuldenfrei. They both have
administrator privileges. As you point out, "Even with an
administrator group account you are still limited within Windows
7
as
in Windows Server 2008 or Vista."
How do I log on as administrator?
Thank you,
Post by Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello Robert,
Logon as administrator or take ownership of the folder and
give
you
Full control. Even with an administrator group account you are
still
limited within Windows 7 as in Windows Server 2008 or Vista.
Best regards
Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and
confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!!
http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi NG,
I have a standard account that has administrator's privileges.
I
have started Windows Explorer by "Run As Administrator." I try
to
delete "Windows OneCare Backup" folder that is no longer in
use.
OneCare is no longer supported and cannot be loaded into
Windows
7.
The system tells me: "You'll need to provide administrator
permission to delete this folder." How can I get this
permission?
TIA,
.
.
.
.
.
Robert Schuldenfrei
2009-11-05 20:39:02 UTC
Permalink
OK, I have made some progress. In order to use F8 you must first press <ESC>
to get to the boot screen. Then you can get advanced options which is
Windows RE. I do not have time today to take this any further, but I can get
to Windows RE.

Bob
Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Pegasus,
Thank you for your help. I have been quite busy and have just now found the
time to try your suggestion of entering Windows RE. It is getting strange!
I find on this machine, an HP Pavilion a1640n, that I cannot get into RE by
pressing F8. Nothing happens and I just boot up to Windows 7. The only
F1
F10
<ESC>
I know that investigating the BIOS is a bit afield from this NG's mission,
but do you have any idea what is going on here?
Thank you,
Bob
Post by Pegasus [MVP]
Try deleting the folder while in the Command Console of the Recovery Mode.
To get there, press F8 during the early boot phase, before Windows starts.
Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Meinolf,
disk. That is the eHDD that contains the OneCare folder of 139 useless GB.
I was able to activate the Administrator user and log in as Administrator.
However, I still got the message: "You'll need to provide administrator
permission to delete this folder." Any ideas why this is the case?
I suppose that I could always reformat the eHDD, but I would rather solve
the problem and learn from the experience.
Cheers,
Bob
Post by Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello Robert,
By default the administartor is disabled in Windows 7, so you have to open
computer management and enable it. Type "compmgmt.msc" in the run line or
'search programs and files' without the quotes and go to 'Local users and
groups'. Do not forget to set a long strong password for the administrator
account. If you have used the administrator account i suggest to disable
it again.
But i would choosing the way with taking ownership, open the folder properties,
security, advanced and the ownship tab. Choose Edit and on the nesxt popup
you can make your account the owner and give you full control.
Best regards
Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi Meinolf,
Thank you for your quick response. I only have two accounts on this
machine. They are Bob and Robert Schuldenfrei. They both have
administrator privileges. As you point out, "Even with an
administrator group account you are still limited within Windows 7 as
in Windows Server 2008 or Vista."
How do I log on as administrator?
Thank you,
Post by Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS]
Hello Robert,
Logon as administrator or take ownership of the folder and give you
Full control. Even with an administrator group account you are still
limited within Windows 7 as in Windows Server 2008 or Vista.
Best regards
Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
Post by Robert Schuldenfrei
Hi NG,
I have a standard account that has administrator's privileges. I
have started Windows Explorer by "Run As Administrator." I try to
delete "Windows OneCare Backup" folder that is no longer in use.
OneCare is no longer supported and cannot be loaded into Windows 7.
The system tells me: "You'll need to provide administrator
permission to delete this folder." How can I get this permission?
TIA,
.
.
.
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